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[camper4lyfe]

I had a thought about something over the weekend (17 hours of alone time will do that to a person).

The church is against gay marriages because it goes against what the bible says. But what I don't get is this: God created man*. God created man's attitudes and all their little quirks. Therefore, by default, God created gays (and everything between gay and straight). Sooooooooooooo....if God made people gay, why is it "wrong" in the eye of the church?


*man being a general term for human beings (PI, I know...but too bad)

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[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

Again, Christianity is very closed-minded. I think that is my biggest argument with the religion. Not gays, not pain and suffering (which is belief of Pandora's Box), etc. It's just the entire closed-mindedness of the religion in general. That is my bout with it.

[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

My faith isn't wishy-washy. I have my morals and beliefs but many of them are in contradiction to Christianity. Why do you think I oppose so much of that religion in general?

And, everything will be ok. everything is a loop. Look at the Crusades. Look at the Civil Wars. Look at the bombing of WTC. Look at the wrongings of what we are doing in Iraq. Look at everything. It's a loop and it will keep happening.

There is no such thing as pure so why do you work so hard to attain a purity that is impossible to reach? Oh, I sinned. Let me ask god for forgiveness. Oh, i got it because I didn't murder someone. That means, if you sin you will automatically get forgiven. That doesn't make any sense! Also, by sin, i'm using it as in Christian beliefs, because in my belief, there is no such meaning to that word.

god is just a fabrication of the conscience for those whom are not strong enough to help themselves. For those whom are unwillingly to test themselves to the challenge of life and all its properties.

[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

god is just a fabrication of the conscience for those whom are not strong enough to help themselves. For those whom are unwillingly to test themselves to the challenge of life and all its properties..... without the aide of an imaginary friend.

[camper4lyfe.livejournal.com]

If I had known my post was going to get this much publicity, I could have added the disclaimer that I have NO problem with people believing in different religions or variations of a religion. I am intrigued by many of them. My problem comes when someone tries to push their beliefs on me, an dintrudes in my personal space and wastes my time to try and 'set me on the right track'.

[camper4lyfe.livejournal.com]

The closed-mindedness comes from the "beliefs" that you are right and everyone else is wrong and are going to rot in hell for eternity.

[camper4lyfe.livejournal.com]

Ok...the educate me. What DO you belive about someone who is non-christian?

[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

What did the opening of Pandora's Box reveal?

[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

god is a myth. the bible could have been written by a playwright. everything written in there could be acts from a fantasical play, right?

[camper4lyfe.livejournal.com]

First of all, I posted this in MY OWN journal as MY OWN way of speaking my mind. I don't care that you read it, nor do I care that you commented, but keep in mind that these are MY thoughts and beliefs and I posted them MY journal as such.

Secondly, just because you are a christian does not mean that YOU know everything.

Thirdly, and I wish I could remember the passage, but to paraphrase it says something to the effect that if God's word was ever changed that it should be taken as null and void. I want to ask you a question. Did the people in Jesus' time speak English? No. I didn't think so. Therefore, all of the words in the bible have been interpreted and changed therefore voiding anything stated in the bible.

Forthly, I have a friend whose mother is Lesbian AND christian. Guess what-just because you're gay/bi/lesbian/tansgendered does NOT mean that you cannot believe and follow in the words of "God".

And for your information, I was raised christian, and found it incredibly boring and a waste of MY time to sit and listen to someone read out of a book that has been changed only GOD knows how many times and interpreted in GOD only knows how many ways.

ALSO, there are how many different religions in the world? How many of those religions believe in multiple gods? How many of those religions believe that their views are the right ones? Who are YOU to say that YOU are right and everyone else is wrong? Who is to say that You are right and I am wrong? Now, I'm not saying that I am right and that you are wrong. What I am saying is that I have my own views and beliefs, as do you. Once again, I posted this in MY journal and not in a community because I was not out to intentionally push MY thoughts on other people. Remember that you came here by your own free will.

BTW...who sent you over here?

[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

I didn't, i just merely put in my journal that it was a good post. My bad for agreeing with it?

[camper4lyfe.livejournal.com]

LOL
no problem
I'm actually pleased that I wrote something that has created so much thought and, in all reality, controversy.

[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

If you are going to be a true Christian, then you should get yourself an original bible. Maybe the Vatican has one. Call 'em? I'm not sure if you'll be able to decipher it though. You may be able to translate it into what you THINK is what it says as others have done in the past.

[camper4lyfe.livejournal.com]

BINGO!
You just hit the nail square on the head!

[fatkins-diet.livejournal.com]

I am saying that I am right, because I know I am.

Isn't that how wars get started?

[camper4lyfe.livejournal.com]

Revelation 22:19 of the King James Version

"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."


Also, the bible was not originally written in Greek, it was written in Latin. If not, then it is incorrect because at that time, Latin was the most widely used language.

You implied that you are right and I am wrong simply by stating that because I am NOT christian (or do not believe in the christian ways) I am ignorant and am wrong.

[knobble.livejournal.com]

>>So why is it wrong for me to say it, but its thought "open-minded" for you to? <<


Why is it wrong to say you are right? Because you base your entire outlook on life on something that is unprovable, therefore making your entire argument specualtion, therefore making any of your "facts" that you present not entirely true, therefore making your assertion that you are "right", wrong.

Thanks for playing.